10/22 Accuracy Improvement (best bang for your buck)

Discussion in 'Firearms, Optics and Accessories' started by Dermastor, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. Dermastor

    Dermastor Well-Known Member

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    I have a Ruger 10/22 50th Anniversary Blued Hogue rubbery stock. To say its inaccurate is an understatement. Best 5 shot group at 100m 3" on a good day.
    So the question is with all the aftermarket stuff you can add, change or upgrade what's the best place to start? I am not looking for Tacticool stuff only what will improve the accuracy (a lot)
    I have tried all sorts of ammo so have exhausted that route now it might be hardware time. What's the suggestions guys.

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  2. gadgetman

    gadgetman Well-Known Member

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  3. Nibblet

    Nibblet Well-Known Member

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    Like gadgetman suggested

    Sell it.
    Buy the 795 [MENTION=4228]stretch[/MENTION] has and enjoy some accuracy, then buy some beer with the change
     
  4. timattalon

    timattalon Well-Known Member

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    Sell it and buy a better one.....

    All joking aside, 3 inches at 100m is pretty good for a Ruger at 100m on a 22LR. Or most 22LR for that matter, from what I have seen.

    If accuracy is what you are really after, start with either super fast 22LR that are still super sonic at 100m or drop to target or subsonic ammo that is under the speed of sound. When projectiles drop through the sound barrier threshold (Trans sonic) that starts a wobble.

    I had one that would be lucky to do 3 inches at 50m on a good day. (A bad day was closer to 6 inches at 25 and these were far more likely) I had a shotgun that had tighter groups than my old Ruger. A barrel change would have helped. And apparently throwing the rifle at the target would have been an improvement. I have seen some very accurate Ruger 10/22s. But when I asked what had been done to them they changed almost everything except the design and the magazines. (New trigger, barrel,new stock and glass bedded, action and scope mounts.) If this is the path you wish to take then I have heard good things about Kidd, and I think there was another custom option here too.

    It can be done, but when you add up what changes you need it may be worth looking at the costs and considering a higher grade 22 like an Anshutz, or CZ Krico etc.. Those Marlins will usually well out perform the rugers too.

    Another issue will always be the lack of control over the ammunition. It is really difficult and practically impossible to hand load rimfire. You could try something like 22 hornet etc if you don't mind an increase in performance. Especially if going 100m plus.

    I like the Ruger design and I have seen accurate ones, but I have never had the joy or pleasure of owning one as accurate as my old JW27 Norinco.
     
  5. greghud

    greghud Well-Known Member

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    My sugestions are,
    Recrown the barrel, $50
    Trigger job $80
    Stock bedding $150 to $250
    in that order
    I get constantly, people commenting that after i thread their 10.22's (and recrown whilst i am at it) they shoot far better.
    Greg
     
  6. bully

    bully Well-Known Member

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    Look on Nathan foster website, one of his articles about the 10/22 sorted mine.
     
  7. MightyBoosh

    MightyBoosh Well-Known Member

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    Agree with above about accuracy. I'm getting 0.5 - 1.0 inch groups with my CZ 452 at 50 metres and think that is as good as it's going to get. I've upgraded the tigger, messed with the torque on the action settings and tried different ammo. I've also had the barrel chopped/recrowned which thankfully didn't make it any worse, maybe a tiny bit better. Groups at 100 metres look like shotgun pattern last time I tried, admittedly before I made any changes.
     
  8. SiB

    SiB Well-Known Member

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    Talk to [MENTION=4491]gundoc[/MENTION]

    He sorted my 10/22 out. It behaves completely differently now.

    I'm also realistic about what I expect of the calibre and rifle; I keep my 10/22 strictly subsonic and for shorter (less than 50m) shots.

    I'll use my .22mag b/a for longer shots

    Works for me
     
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    Nick-D Well-Known Member

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    Mooseman Well-Known Member

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    Three inches at 100 m is good, the 10/22 was not designed for target shooting. The Ruger 10/22 is a rifle designed for pest control and the accuracy you are getting is totally adequate.
    I think that 100m is starting to stretch the capabilities of the rimfire round especially subsonic. If you use dial up scopes you can extend on this range but energy is falling off badly as range increases.
    Out to about 70 -80 meters they work well. I Have shot thousands upon thousands of pest animals with the several I have owned over thirty odd years of pest control I was involved in so nobody will convince me they are shit, I still have one which has seen a lot of use and it still shoots as it should.
    I think as a pest control tool they are the best on the market, ideal for on a motorbike using a scabbard( nice and short), easy to clean, function well with subsonic, and are more than accurate for there intended purpose.
     
  11. gadgetman

    gadgetman Well-Known Member

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    And that is about the price of [MENTION=4228]stretch[/MENTION]'s 795, which will likely still outperform the Ruger after spending that money.

    https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz/f13/marlin-795-22lr-37904/
     
  12. stretch

    stretch Well-Known Member

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    [MENTION=6744]Dermastor[/MENTION], just buy my 795 already! I'm local-ish, so I'll even drop it off.

    Sent from my SM-T800 using Tapatalk
     
  13. gonetropo

    gonetropo Well-Known Member

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    gundoc: 1.5" at 100 m.
    miss that rifle
     
  14. rossi.45

    rossi.45 Well-Known Member

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    when you say . . . ' you want to improve the accuracy ( a lot ) ' . . . exactly what did you have in mind & how much do you want to spend ?

    i would imagine if its a project with a Big budget spread over time then you will eventually end up with a tack driver . . . which will owe you untold but may give lots of satisfaction.

    have a look at these guys if you dont know of them already for ideas

    RimfireCentral.com - Rimfire Community!

    just don't sell it later . . . you will take a serious hit

    good luck
     
  15. 300CALMAN

    300CALMAN MIA somewhere in Nam

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    If you want an accurate semi auto .22 buy a KIDD or make one out of parts. The truth is that at 100 m you are better with a .17hmr.
     
  16. Dermastor

    Dermastor Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys for your fantastic support (note the insincerity) no really you are all just sooooo great.

    I should have explained better. I was hoping to use the rifle in the upcoming 22 practical match Kerry is running. We have to use std ammo and one target is out at 150m. Originally the rifle was purchased for pest control and for that it excels. I knew it wouldn't be overly accurate but for time limited stages the semi would have been great. But I will probably use a bolt action the flip side of its better accuracy will be less lead in the air. I do enjoy the banter so thanks for the ideas even the sell it now ones, but I will keep the rifle and yes I do have a nice 17HMR that is good for the shots that don't need the .223 Maybe a few small improvements might be made such as an attempt to bed it and add a KIDD rear block so I can tie down the rear of the action.
     
  17. Beaker

    Beaker Well-Known Member

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    Dremal and autosolv, polish the Shit out of everything. Maybe not a accuracy thing, but made it nicer to shoot.

    Play with torques on action. Mine likes tight as.

    Replace buffer pin with a nylon rod. (I have some if you want, just pm me your address)

    Have a look at crown. If it's good, new barrel. If it's crap, your call...... recrown or new barrel.
     
  18. gadgetman

    gadgetman Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, get a Marlin and add to the collection. A man can never have too many 22's. They all have a purpose. A few years ago [MENTION=321]mudgripz[/MENTION] did a round up of 22 semis for a magazine, he took quite a bit of convincing that 22 semis could be accurate. The top two turned out to be Marlin 60 (tube fed) and Marlin 795 (detachable magazine). A lot of people complained that it wasn't comparing apples with apples as the Ruger was a semi and the others were bolt action. It's pretty cheap to grab it and try it at least. What do you have to lose?
     
  19. Tommy

    Tommy Well-Known Member

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    Another +1 for the 795. You could dump a grand or two on a 10/22 to make it sharp, but yeah nah. The 795 will run ya less than the price of a 10/22 drop in trigger! Also, the 795 has a last round bolt holt open feature, and the mags are nice and flat and sit comfortably in your pocket.
     

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