Big Sevens... Which one for the 195 Berger.....?

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  1. GregD

    GregD Member

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    Our personal 7mm Fatmax weighs about 6.6 lbs including the 3.5-18 Swaro scope. Its a pussy to shoot with just a radial type brake, but we fit some with our 7000 series alloy angled port directional brakes for those who feel they want more. We personally only have these on the bigger FX series with the heavier projectiles. Not needed on the Fatmax really though, and the radial is better for when you're taking the brake on and off for spook and shoot mode when we're walking without hearing protection, and then winding back on when we want to take a long shot with plugs in. All brakes will creep on the shoulder over time with many on and offs, and it doesn't matter with a radial but is annoying as it starts to index wrong with a directional.
     
  2. rambo-6mmrem

    rambo-6mmrem Well-Known Member

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    I can understand the gongs at very long distance would be fun but in my opinion and my opinion only hunting at that range would be un ethical hunting
    one slight miss calculation or a gust at the Wrong time and the animal has a round through its back legs its most likely going to get somewhere you cant see it to get a follow up and how long is it going to take someone on foot to cover that distance find the poor thing and finish it off

    I would limit hunting distance to a distance where you could hit a 6"x6" gong every shot in any conditions cold bore without fail
     
  3. Gibo

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    Yes and this is my opinion :) There is no difference in risk at any distance if you consider experience and sound systems. I know guys who could consistently 'kill' to that distance, I also know a lot of people cannot ethically kill at 50 metres. Whether they are using inaccurate rifles, don't know where the kill zones are or are simply taking dumb shots. The point is good practise, good tools and good knowledge amount to ethical kills, not distance :D
     
  4. Echo

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    This thread is about big Sevens and 195 Bergers...not about you're ability as a shooter

    Some great info has been given on the subject by some knowledgeable guys that are freely sharing this info

    Lets try keep it on track
     
  5. 300_BLK

    300_BLK Well-Known Member

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    Amen [MENTION=1608]Gibo[/MENTION]. I have seen many a fuckup under 100m on animals. Get out there and practice with the all the gear you're using in the field until you are good to go. Know you're limits!

    Cheers for the info [MENTION=4287]GregD[/MENTION].
     
  6. 6MMBR

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    So explane this carbon barrel to me.
    Its a standard mountin rifle contour that would be threded and have a vacume bagged vinalester resin pumped thru it im gussing?.
    Best resin for heat resistance !
    Machined crown tip holding it all together. or is it filament wrapped like a spa on a yacht
     
  7. Friwi

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  8. 6MMBR

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    Good spin?
    Could see the benifit in a hunting situation but why you would want to reduce weight on for example an f open rifle.
     
  9. 6x47

    6x47 Well-Known Member

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    You wouldn't. They're targeted at lightweight hunting rifles although the weight savings are pretty marginal.
     
  10. Kiwi Greg

    Kiwi Greg Terminator Products

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  11. 6x47

    6x47 Well-Known Member

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    Would you not agree Greg the major weight savings to be made are in the stock (given you haven't chosen a heavy action)?

    I was alluding to hunting rifle barrels under say 25".
     
  12. 6MMBR

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    Interesting, wonder how these barrels will go with the time test!
    Most composite and resins break down and go brittle over time as resins never really cure 100%
    Heat is a major cause of premature aging in resins.

    Might try one on my next rebarrel
     
  13. Echo

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    Any updates on the 195 ?
     
  14. 300_BLK

    300_BLK Well-Known Member

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    Smith is screwing on a Shilen Select Match and I will get dies from Whidden in the states.

    Barrel length will be around 28" and have yet to decide on contour #3 or #4.

    Hopefully not too far away.
     
  15. Echo

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    Nice work...exciting project

    1 in 8 twist barrel?

    Have you gone for a 7mm 300 Norma standard shoulder or Improved?

    Does Whidden make custom dies or are you using a 300 Norma Magnum die with 7mm neck bushing?
     
  16. 300_BLK

    300_BLK Well-Known Member

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    [MENTION=675]Echo[/MENTION] 1:8 Shilen Select match tube @ 26"

    Standard shoulder.

    Action is all trued up and bolt work done.

    Whidden Dies arrived and I know which bushings to get.

    Have 175 ELD-X and some RL33, just need some 195 Bergers.

    Barrel is on the water so fingers crossed she will be 6 weeks away....
     
  17. GWH

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    Got an update on this [MENTION=4170]300_BLK[/MENTION]

    Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk
     
  18. 300_BLK

    300_BLK Well-Known Member

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    Barrels were seized by customs in the states due to exporter having incorrect paperwork.

    Still waiting
     
  19. GWH

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    Bugger

    Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk
     
  20. Rock river arms hunter

    Rock river arms hunter Well-Known Member

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    Call this a dumb question if you will but why did you select the barrel you did as opposed to a Locally made Trueflite?

    Some very interesting reading indeed as I'm researching my next project along similar lines.

    Enlightening is a understatement!
     

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