Not a hunting dog as such

Discussion in 'Hunting Dogs' started by sambnz, Sep 9, 2017.

  1. sambnz

    sambnz Well-Known Member

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    me and the miss picked up a pup a month ago. She's a handy wee dog. Collie x huntaway. Lovely temperament. She's pretty calm and relaxed and has been loving exploring around the hills.

    Just working on sit, go and recall at the moment. She's getting better but a pretty stubborn learner. I'm strugggling a bit with teaching her to stay (hold sit until I release her) but she's getting there.

    She's my first pup so have been having a great time with her and learning heaps.

    Hoping to have her as a family dog and maybe with a bit of time in the hills she'll develop a smell for deer.

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  3. tetawa

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    Don't push her too hard while she's young. Make sure you have her under control before you give her too much "free range", good luck.
     
  4. Wirehunt

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    And get her gun broken now, easy at that age.
     
  5. P38

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    Good looking pup :thumbsup:

    I'm sure she will be a good hunting mate , just takes time and effort.

    Keep up the good work

    Cheers
    Pete
     
  6. Ruff

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    Nice looking pup. Pro training tip: When you believe your dog is being stubborn, it doesn't understand what you want. Good luck.
     
  7. upnorth uplander

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    & when they been doing something for years then 1 day look at you & wont do it, thats not being stubbon either. Its called being a cunt
     
  8. Sarvo

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    They (dogs) are ALL hunting dogs
    My father was an avid sheep dog trialist and he would often say - "a sheep dog working is a controlled form of worrying"
    Same with this - you might remember my post with the Aussie Terrier - mates used to crack up and piss themselves when they saw me get out of the Hilux or the Hughs - they weren’t laughing 3-4 days later :)
    A Poodle can be train to hunt - you need an "indicator" not a Lion killer.

    1st road to full success with a Deer dog is to get the dog to realise it needs YOU - to finish the kill and not itself.
    Once the dog realises that it must work in unison with you - your home and hosed - and hosing out the cooler often too
     
  9. Sarvo

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    Be intersted to hears guys views and approaches to doing this - I cocked it up once with GWP - bloody shame as it would have been a goodin too
     
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  10. sambnz

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    Also interested to hear of people's methods for doing this. Will look at starting her on it in the next few weeks.


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  11. Ruff

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    No, it means they think you are cunt.
     
  12. erniec

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    My father used to give his heading /huntaway pups to his sister in Dunedin.
    Got them back with manners,basic commands like sit,a stop, get up here etc.
    Didn't start to early.
     
  13. upnorth uplander

    upnorth uplander Well-Known Member

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    Yep the cunt that puts them in there place so they dont do it again
     
  14. Micky Duck

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    well Ive never had issue with gunshyness so must have done something right...... right from start lots of loud noises at feeding time,banging bowls,tapping iron shed,clapping wood blocks,dogs just wants the dinner and dont give a monkeys about the noise.
    the only gunshy dog Ive had(was a heading dog first and hunting mate 2nd) hunted with me just fine,he would just hang back a bit as I stalked in for shot,he knew the good bit outweighed the bad,just didnt like the bang.sure as shit didnt make him hold back on pigs.
    so lots of loud noises at fun times and you should be fine,surprised Ruff hasnt chimed in on this one????
     
  15. Sarvo

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    Yes - it’s very common for strong eye heading dogs to be gun-shy - hereditary

    I have usually done the intro to gunshot via a 22 short fired into the ground beside me when using the pup just out in front excited of something like a dead bird etc

    My stuff up with GWP was disciplining my sheep dogs that seemed to lose their ears and manners @ 3-500m away and decided they knew intended direction to go better than me.
    223 Armalite in cruiser with 20 shot mag put a few missiles under their toes occasionally to bring the arrogance back to earth and to my way of thinking.
    Unfortunately - did it once with said GWP on back that had not had full/correct timing of intro to rifle.
    That was it - buggared it
     
  16. Sarvo

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    Yes - it’s very common for strong eye heading dogs to be gun-shy - hereditary

    I have usually done the intro to gunshot via a 22 short fired into the ground beside me when using the pup just out in front excited with something like a dead bird etc

    My stuff up with GWP was disciplining my sheep dogs that seemed to lose their ears and manners @ 3-500m away and decided they knew intended direction to go better than me.
    223 Armalite in cruiser with 20 shot mag put a few missiles under their toes occasionally to bring the arrogance back to earth and to my way of thinking.
    Unfortunately - did it once with said GWP on back that had not had full/correct timing of intro to rifle.
    That was it - buggared it
     
  17. Micky Duck

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    yip that would tend to make pup a little wary.
     
  18. Sarvo

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    It was more the point that it took the mood of the other dogs it was with and it stuck.
    It was about 6moths old and had been introed via above method prior - but was still young enoguh to be effected.
    Farming was a very stressful occupation you know :eek:h noes:
     
  19. Micky Duck

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    nothings changed...always has been and always will be stressfull in times of hardship.....I remember the glory days of "Rogernomics".......now them were some stressfull times indeed.
     
  20. Petros_mk

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    And when they do something truly right. Its called being a Good Cunt, the same goes for a mate that knows when to offer a cold one without you asking for one.
     

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